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warreni
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - 11:49 AM UTC

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Don't worry mate! Just jump right in and destroy stuff.



Unfortunately, when I destroy stuff during a build it is usually (1) unintentional, (2) often the same piece multiple times, (3) not easily repairable, and (4) so darn frustrating. A one step forward, two steps back kinda build. Al (PS) Great build by the way.



I was a bit hesitant with this stage as it meant removing large pieces of plastic on a part that had already had lots of delicate bits glued to it. But so far so good although the filler I used for the large holes shrunk a fair bit, but it is supposed to be for seams, not gaping chasms!
I just put some more filler over the top of the last application. I like this filler as you can actually remove excess very quickly with fine wet n dry and water.
Back to the bench..
Warren
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - 04:13 PM UTC
I patched the holes with sheet plastic from the inside, filled the remaining deckside holes with evergreen strips and smoothed it all off with putty. Looks rather dire when you have just removed the original pieces though,
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - 04:56 PM UTC
Just a quick one, Griffon do not supply enough of part P19 when you are installing four depth charges. I have emailed them already. Six is a fair number to be short... And any idea what a ground mine would be doing on an MTB?
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 03:20 AM UTC
It's on on on with the depth charges even though I have not heard back from Griffon regarding the shortfall problem.The ends of the depth charges are not too bad in plastic..

Even though you get more free sinkholes in each one. But PE is better so the ends have some surgery carried out on them to remove the plastic detail. ({lease note that no depth charge ends were harmed during this surgery )..

Then a few holes are drilled in each piece to locate the PE parts..

The rings are the missing parts. And I filled the sink holes with CA.
Next you build the latches that hold the release cables in position..

And here is a piccy of all the parts for the depth charges that have been produced so far before any assembly of the frames occurs..

And that's it so far,
Best regards
Warren
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 03:41 AM UTC
Warren, Check out the jewelry making section of any arts and crafts store, they usually have some small sized rings that might be useful if Griffon doesn't come through. If you can find the right size they might even be an improvement over the flat PE ones. Al
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 04:05 AM UTC
Hi Al

Wow Warren .. the whole work of jeweler's shop!!

I am still attentive

Regards Daniel
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 04:07 AM UTC

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Warren, Check out the jewelry making section of any arts and crafts store, they usually have some small sized rings that might be useful if Griffon doesn't come through. If you can find the right size they might even be an improvement over the flat PE ones. Al



Hi there Al!
Thanks for dropping by.
I had been thinking exactly the same thing. Great minds think alike.
Just a matter of finding the right rings.
Cheers mate
Warren
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 04:13 AM UTC

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Hi Al

Wow Warren .. the whole work of jeweler's shop!!

I am still attentive

Regards Daniel



Hello Daniel.

Glad you could take a break from your RC building and drop by.

Sometimes I think I would love to build a kit with lots of PE and leave the PE in gold colour. It looks so good!

Regards
Warren
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 04:49 AM UTC
Well, friends I do not have big advances in my S-boat....



The culprit is ... the organization of the first annual Expo of Gray Wolves. All guests are!!

Regards Daniel
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 05:38 PM UTC

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Hi Al

Wow Warren .. the whole work of jeweler's shop!!

I am still attentive

Regards Daniel



Hello Daniel.

Glad you could take a break from your RC building and drop by.

Sometimes I think I would love to build a kit with lots of PE and leave the PE in gold colour. It looks so good!

Regards
Warren



That is exactly what Tim Biddiscombe did with his Yamato build, first building it with PE before painting everything. It looked really brilliant.
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 05:40 PM UTC
Tried making new rings from scratch with brass wire or solder?
Funny they got the number required wrong though. Sort of thing that is really irritating.
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 05:41 PM UTC

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Well, friends I do not have big advances in my S-boat....



The culprit is ... the organization of the first annual Expo of Gray Wolves. All guests are!!

Regards Daniel



That should be fun, bet you all manage a light barbecued snack at the same time


Watch out you don't end up putting your torpedoes on backwards.........................................
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 07:05 PM UTC

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Tried making new rings from scratch with brass wire or solder?
Funny they got the number required wrong though. Sort of thing that is really irritating.



Al suggested jewellery stuff and if Griffon don't get back to me I may try that.

When I was at school I remember making bangles and necklaces out of copper links we made, but they were slightly bigger than 3mm..

A hint for later Julian, don't follow the order Griffon suggest you build the depth charge racks. You will fail!
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 08:05 PM UTC
Forewarned is forearmed they say, thanks Warren.
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 09:24 PM UTC
I will give you precise directions tomorrow Commander Sallows.
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 09:58 PM UTC
Thank you sir !
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 10:32 PM UTC
Daniel, Warren, Julian:

great builds as always!
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Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 - 12:33 AM UTC
Thank Russel,
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Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 - 12:37 AM UTC
Hull camo scheme has been applied now. It is still very clean looking, weathering still to come:






Most of the photos of MTB's show the boats looking very hard worked with apparently any maintenance going to armament and propulsion. This does of course give you the oportunity to go as mad as you like to give the boat a "beaten, bashed but unbroken" look.
More to follow,
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Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 - 04:58 AM UTC
Very good advances in his Vospers. All the manufacturers of PE forget something!! But with yours skill are overcome easily.
callme the attention the low hull painted with black!! Rare do not be quite black !!
The MTV of both decrees were very punished and little maintenance I like this !!!

It hurts the distance. But will welcome all to the the first Expo

Regards Daniel
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Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 - 05:23 AM UTC
Have fun my friend, enjoy the gathering of the wolves
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Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 - 08:10 AM UTC

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Have fun my friend, enjoy the gathering of the wolves



Wolves? More like targets..
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Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 - 08:19 AM UTC
Well it is time for another update!
All today, well yesterday and last night, were spent on the depth charges and their racks.
First up we have a couple of the small parts used to hold the release ropes..


Then we have a rack..


Julian, when you are building the racks glue the ends to the bottom part first rather than the top part as suggested by Griffon. The top parts has only the width of the PE to attach to whereas the bottom parts have a good area. It is much easier to glue them on first THEN the top part later.
Also, lining up the sides and the brace can be fun but you can make it much easier by using one of the supplied 0.5mm copper wires to line it all up. Just a hint.
Then we have the assembled depth charges. Note that the two ends are different..

And six of those little rings is what is missing from the PE set. I could just go and buy some jewellery links on Ebay but that is not the point. They should be supplied.
Still haven't heard back from Griffon..
Cheers
Warren
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Posted: Friday, September 13, 2013 - 04:41 PM UTC
Looks very impressive Warren, in spite of all the problems
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Posted: Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 01:00 AM UTC
Some things going on underwater here:




Some Alclad exhaust manifold with some Vallejo Liquid Metal dry brushing, not too shabby IMHO.





Had this sent to me by a colleague at work, don't know who made it but it is brilliant