CONTEST
MSW Naval Trivia Contest

#021
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 01:49 PM UTC
hello all,
here is my question:
in WW2 US Marine Corp you had BAM's and HAM's,what are they?
cheers,
Bruce
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#021
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 05:02 AM UTC
hello all,
here is the hint:
both were names for male and female marines.
cheers,
Bruce
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Posted: Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 12:35 AM UTC
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hello all,
here is my question:
in WW2 US Marine Corp you had BAM's and HAM's,what are they?
cheers,
Bruce
OK, Now how are you going to handle posting the answer to this one, Bruce?...
I'm all for fun, and
I know what the answer to the question is, coming from a military family myself... but I think that you're wandering off to the left a bit with this type of question subject matter, as there really is nothing educational to be gained with this one...
"And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by..."

#021
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Posted: Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 08:15 AM UTC
hello Mark,
you are right,i was looking for a little fun and to see how they would put up the answer,so i will post another question.if any one wants to know the answer,i will send them an pm.
so know that i had my fun..... lets try a new question.
i was launched in the 1920's lost in the 1942 and found in 1945 serving in the IJN.
who am i,where was i lost, and where was i found.
sorry about the other question,Mark.can i blame it on low oxygen in the brain because where i live?
cheers,
Bruce
Fair Winds and Following Sea's, Always.
To my Friends, Death is as Light as a Feather, Duty is as Heavy as a Mountain.
I will all have my Hand on your Shoulder. Do not grieve for me I will allways be there for You.

#021
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Posted: Monday, April 28, 2008 - 10:15 AM UTC
hello all,
if you all want a hint,just ask.
cheers,
Bruce
Fair Winds and Following Sea's, Always.
To my Friends, Death is as Light as a Feather, Duty is as Heavy as a Mountain.
I will all have my Hand on your Shoulder. Do not grieve for me I will allways be there for You.
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Posted: Monday, April 28, 2008 - 02:13 PM UTC
Ham/Bam, bad boy bruce!
as for the real question.... sounds like a tanker/oiler... ?

#021
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Posted: Monday, April 28, 2008 - 05:03 PM UTC
hello all,
think Java Sea and ABDA Force.this is a hard question,i found it in a book printed in 1948.
next hint tuesday night.
cheers,
Bruce
Fair Winds and Following Sea's, Always.
To my Friends, Death is as Light as a Feather, Duty is as Heavy as a Mountain.
I will all have my Hand on your Shoulder. Do not grieve for me I will allways be there for You.

#021
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Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 06:07 PM UTC
hello all,
hint: i fought with the DE Ruyter and with Houston in the ear years of the Pacific War. and i was found in Japan after the War.
cheers,
Bruce
Fair Winds and Following Sea's, Always.
To my Friends, Death is as Light as a Feather, Duty is as Heavy as a Mountain.
I will all have my Hand on your Shoulder. Do not grieve for me I will allways be there for You.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 01:40 PM UTC
My broadsides keep hitting empty water......
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Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 05:33 PM UTC
Hi gang
I finally found a reference to her online. She was the USS Stewart DD-224, sunk then refloated and repaired as IJN Patrol Boat 102.
Here's the webpage that explains all about the "Phantom Destroyer..."
http://www.magweb.com/sample/ww2/ns11phan.htmGood one Bruce!
Bob
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#021
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Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 09:00 PM UTC
hello Sir,
you are right.i thought that this question would be an interesting one.i just got another book on destroyers called Blood on the Sea:American Destroyers lost in WW2,which also had her in it.
you are up.
cheers,
Bruce
i told you all it was a hard question.
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Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 03:03 AM UTC
That was a very interesting question and I had no idea about this piece of history until I started to look it up, good one!!
Okay, this is a 'who, what and where' question....
I fired the RCN's (maybe even Canada's) first shots of the second world war. In what ship was I the captain, who am I and in which action did I do this?
Bob
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Posted: Friday, May 02, 2008 - 12:09 PM UTC
Do we need a hint maybe?
I was the captain of a River class destroyer......
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Posted: Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 02:56 AM UTC
Ok, I found this, in a web site called "Lesser Known Facts of WW2":
"The first Allied shot of the war in the Far East was actually fired over the bows of the Australian coaster Woniora (Captain F. N. Smale) from a twin 6-inch gun emplacement at Point Nepean, guarding the entrance to Melbourne's Port Phillip Bay. The 823 ton coaster had entered the bay at 9.15 pm on September 3, 1939, after a trip from Tasmania. Ordered to heave-to for inspection, the coaster gave her identity but continued on without stopping. A 100 lb shell, fired across her bow, soon changed her captain's mind."
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Posted: Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 11:30 AM UTC
Nice try, but nope. It's the first RCN shots I'm looking for.
Bob
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Posted: Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 11:55 AM UTC
Hmmmm... 'nother hint maybe?
"The action where I fired the Royal Canadian Navy's first shots of WWII was at Dunkirk as part of Operation Dynamo".
Bob
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Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 - 09:50 AM UTC
ah! I was on the wrong side of the world .... here is a (I hope) better guess:
HMCS St. Laurent
from this web site:
http://hmcshaida.ca/dewolf.html "Before being relieved in July 1940, St. Laurent became the first Canadian ship to exchange shots with the King's enemies when she engaged a field battery of General Irwin Rommel's "Ghost" division near Ste. Valery-en-Caux on the Channel coast of France"
Other RCN websites I bumped into while researching this question:
Archives of Personal Stories The ships, aircraft, and systems of Canada's navy, from its inception in 1910 until present day Canada War Museum Modern RCN Page cheers!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 06:04 AM UTC
Yes sir, you are correct.
Henry 'Harry' Gerorge DeWolf (aka Hard-Over Harry) was the captain of the RCN's river class destroyer HMCS St. Laurent (H83) at the time and was reportedly grinning like a cheshire cat behind his binoculars up on the bridge as his gunners fired round after round of 4.7 inch and 3 inch onto Rommel's panzers and guns arrayed on the cliff tops who were firing at him and the troops ashore on the evacuation beaches at Dunkirk. Cdr. DeWolf later captained HMCS Haida as probably Canada's most famous and most decorated warship.
I met (then Admiral) DeWolf once and was instantly struck by the quiet gentleness of the man. He was reluctant, of course, to discuss his wartime exploits but I did notice a glint in his eye and a slight grin when someone else in the room of the same vintage as him addressed his as 'Hard-Over Harry'. Quite a day and quite a man he was.
Over to you sir!!
Bob
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Posted: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 01:19 PM UTC
Bob, thats a GREAT story! Thanks for sharing.... Ill give this one some thought (and look for a specific picture), will post later...
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Posted: Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 01:47 PM UTC
Ok, here we go, very straight forward...
What is my name? 

#021
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Posted: Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 04:31 PM UTC
hello James,
you are either the HMS Nelson or the HMS Rodney.
from the drawling i would say she is the HMS Nelson.
cheers,
Bruce
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Posted: Friday, May 09, 2008 - 04:02 AM UTC
So then I'll guess HMS Rodney.....hahahaha
Bob
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Posted: Friday, May 09, 2008 - 02:44 PM UTC
Does anyone else see the drawback of this design? There are no big guns pointing toward the stern. If you're in a running fight where you're being chased, you're hosed!
Jim
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Posted: Friday, May 09, 2008 - 03:59 PM UTC

you are up!
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Posted: Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 02:16 PM UTC
Oh no, really... I only guessed Rodney becasue Bruce guessed Nelson. I knew it was one of the two but not a real solid guess. Please Bruce, you go ahead. You were on the right track, I only piggybacked on your answer.
Bob
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"Veni, Vidi, Velcro".... ("I came, I saw, I stuck around")