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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 04:28 AM UTC
I thought I'd post the question again so it would be on the same page of the thread.


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My crew opted to stop fighting and go home early, although my officers objected and I got cold stares from my allies on the way home. What ship am I?


Being as how you say it happened in the Pacific war I'm guessing it might have been somewhere in the N.E.I., and was one of the ABDAFloat ships. That's as far as my thinking takes me.


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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 06:15 AM UTC
No, it happened much later in the conflict and had nothing to do with impending defeat.

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Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 02:56 AM UTC
It looks like you've stumped us Karl. Could we have another clue, or maybe it's time to give us the answer and another question.
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Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 - 07:10 AM UTC
was it the Yamato turning tail after Taffy 3 turned them away?
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Posted: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 07:33 AM UTC
Hi Everyone!

The answer is: I am HMCS Uganda. By 1945 the new British Pacific Fleet was fighting alongside the U. S. and this naturally included vessels from the commonwealth navies. In June 1945, with the European war wrapped up, the Canadian government polled its servicemen still fighting overseas on whether they would like to come home.

Approximately 2/3's of Uganda's crew opted to quit the war, despite the protestations of their mostly British officers, and the ship was obliged to turn east and head for Canada. Remember, this was a time when, as far as anyone knew, the war with Japan still had another year or more of vicious fighting to go.

During her long, lonely voyage to Vancouver, the Uganda was met with cold stares from U. S. personnel who still had a war to fight. At any rate, the ship returned to Canadian waters not long before Japan capitulated.

I always wondered what the Canadian POWs captured with the fall of Hong Kong thought of Ottawa's initiative while they languished in the jungles of Thailand or the mines of Manchuria.....

Here's another one:

What revolutionary naval weapon actually killed more of its operators than the enemy?

--Karl
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Posted: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 07:53 AM UTC
I had a feeling it might have been Canadian. I'd heard of some army units voting to go home, or almost having a mutiny when they didn't get to go, but I hadn't heard of this happening at sea. Great Question.

Here is one possible answer to your next question. There may have been others but C.S.S. Hunley comes to mind. 21 men died on her in three sinkings, including her final one, while only 5 men died on the U.S.S. Housatonic when the Hunley sank her.

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Posted: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 08:12 AM UTC
That was a great question, learned something I did not know!

I also would have guessed the Hunley... or the "flying torpedo" (Okha) deployed by the Japanase towards the end of the war. Digging a bit, I found this web page of Japanese Suicide Weapons
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Posted: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 10:47 AM UTC
You guys are sharp--Hunley it was.

Here's a personality quizzer:

My big brother had a distinguished, but troublesome career in the Navy, and when I finally got my shot at a command, I botched it and lost my ship. Who am I?

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Posted: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:21 PM UTC
Now, now Karl, it's my turn. (I'm going to be giving your question some thought though.

Here is my question.

A old ship, with a new captain, I took part in one of the most famous naval battles in history. Three years to the day later the enemy finally got the best of me and I had to be scuttled. Commanding the ship that sank me was the same captain, though not so new now. Who am I?

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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 04:29 AM UTC

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Now, now Karl, it's my turn. (I'm going to be giving your question some thought though.

Here is my question.

A old ship, with a new captain, I took part in one of the most famous naval battles in history. Three years to the day later the enemy finally got the best of me and I had to be scuttled. Commanding the ship that sank me was the same captain, though not so new now. Who am I?



You must be USS Ward. BTW, RADM Outerbridge paid a visit to our dining facility, and when he was introduced, the cheers almost tore the roof off!

Here's a hint on my obtuse quizzer: it dates from the Age of Fighting Sail.

--Karl
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 06:07 AM UTC

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You must be USS Ward. BTW, RADM Outerbridge paid a visit to our dining facility, and when he was introduced, the cheers almost tore the roof off!


Right you are Karl. How'd I know you'd get it, and fast.

U.S.S. Ward fired the opening shot of the U.S. Pacific war on Dec 7 1941, sinking a Japanese midget sub. 3 years to the day, Dec 7 1944 the APD, high speed, or destroyer, transport Ward was hit and badly damaged by a Kamikaze. Ironically her skipper at Pearl Harbor, William Outerbridge

commanded the U.S.S. O'Brien who was tasked with sinking the Ward with gunfire.

I've an idea about your question, but I have to check it out.



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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 06:23 AM UTC

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...How'd I know you'd get it, and fast. ...





Just check my bio.

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Posted: Friday, March 19, 2010 - 05:55 PM UTC

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Just check my bio.


Oh I have, and color me jealous. I'd give one or two pieces of anatomy, nothing valuable of course, to have your job.

I think you might need to give us another hint. I was thinking of the Hood brothers or Cornwallis. Those were the only brothers I could think of, but neither seem to match.


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Posted: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 05:17 AM UTC

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...I think you might need to give us another hint. I was thinking of the Hood brothers or Cornwallis. Those were the only brothers I could think of, but neither seem to match.




Think USN. The older brother was nicknamed "Hard Luck Bill", but remember, I'm asking who the younger sibling was.

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Posted: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 07:01 AM UTC
Wow, this was tough. It didn't help that there was some old silent movie called "Hard Luck Bill" that kept coming up. Looks like the person you are talking about is Captain, actually Master-Commandant Joseph Bainbridge, younger brother of Commodore William Bainbridge. As Captain of the U.S.S. Frolic, 18 gun sloop of war, he surrendered the Frolic when faced with the 36 gun frigate HMS Orpheus and 12 gun schooner HMS Shelburne.

It was really interesting reading about how William Bainbridge earned his nickname.

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Posted: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 10:50 AM UTC
Yep, Rodger, you win the Christmas turkey!

Joe Bainbridge took the brand-new Frolic towards Cuba and fell in with the Orpheus and Shelburne in the Florida Straits. Instead fighting his way past the smaller Shelburne, he tried to run, even going so far as to jettison his guns to lighten his ship, but to no avail. Some families have no luck at all.

The Frolic was sister to the more successful Wasp which herself disappeared at sea later in the War of 1812.

What's your next shot?

--Karl
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Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 - 04:51 AM UTC
Ok, here is my question.

You know Dasher, and Dancer, and...wait, wrong question. You know the five Queen Elizabeth class battleships, Barham, Malaya, Q.E, Valiant, and Warspite, but what was the name going to be of the sixth ship that was ordered but never laid down?

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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 11:05 AM UTC

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Ok, here is my question.

You know Dasher, and Dancer, and...wait, wrong question. You know the five Queen Elizabeth class battleships, Barham, Malaya, Q.E, Valiant, and Warspite, but what was the name going to be of the sixth ship that was ordered but never laid down?



National Maritime Museum contains documents indicating that number six would have been named Agincourt. This name, of course, was later applied to a foreign order dreadnought taken over by the RN on outbreak of the war.

--Karl
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 04:44 PM UTC

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National Maritime Museum contains documents indicating that number six would have been named Agincourt. This name, of course, was later applied to a foreign order dreadnought taken over by the RN on outbreak of the war.

--Karl


Right you are she was going to be the Agincourt.

You may fire when ready Gridley, or Karl.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 07:52 AM UTC
Okay, here we go:

Which ship was notable for having sunk more of her own navy's ships than any of the enemy's?

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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 04:07 PM UTC
Karl this might be a bit tough because more than one ship might be "notable" for this. For example the HNoMS St Albans, which I've just completed as a model, collided with a minesweeper, sinking HMS Alberic, and, along with HMS Seagull sank the Polish sub Jastrzab. She did this while only sharing a kill with two other ships of one U-Boat.

So maybe you can reword this question to make it more specific?

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Posted: Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 04:15 AM UTC
All right: the sinkings were deliberate scuttlings, not from collisions or friendly-fire incidents.

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