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MSW Naval Trivia Contest
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 05:44 AM UTC
Wow, Kenny, looks like you stumped everyone on this one.

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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 06:04 AM UTC
I was hoping somebody else would know this one.

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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 07:02 AM UTC
The answer is Lord Louis Mountbatten.

His father was First Sea Lord at the outbreak of the First World War, but the prevailing extreme anti-German feelings obliged him to resign. In 1917, when the Royal Family stopped using their German names and titles, Prince Louis of Battenberg became Louis Mountbatten, and was created Marquess of Milford Haven. His second son acquired the courtesy style Lord Louis Mountbatten and was known as Lord Louis informally until his death.
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 10:42 AM UTC
Well, darn. I was looking way back around the time of Nelson.

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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 01:34 PM UTC
I was sooo stumped, good one!
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 02:41 PM UTC
Who's up? Somebody take it.
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 03:36 PM UTC
hello Kenny,
i think you are,nobody got your question right.if you do not want it,lets see if Skipper will do one?
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Posted: Friday, June 27, 2008 - 01:34 AM UTC
Is anyone going to post a question? I enjoy watching you guys strain your braincells trying to come up with the answers.

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Go ahead and start us again Jim.

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Posted: Friday, June 27, 2008 - 06:14 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Is anyone going to post a question? I enjoy watching you guys strain your braincells trying to come up with the answers.

Jim


Hello Jim,
go ahead and ask a question,i forgot about this.
cheers,
Bruce
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Posted: Friday, June 27, 2008 - 01:55 PM UTC
Me? Ok, I'll dig something up and post it tomorrow.
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Posted: Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 01:49 AM UTC
Ok, here goes!

"I was charged by the Ming Emperors to explore the Western Ocean. I made seven voyages between 1405 & 1433. Who am I, and how big were my largest ships?"

Good luck!

Jim
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Posted: Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 05:23 PM UTC
hello Jim,
reaching far into the past.i know the answer because Miss Mary just wrote a great article about that Chinese naval person and his voyages.i will wait to see if anyone gets it.
cheers,
Bruce
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Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 03:03 PM UTC
Dang!

Just started looking at all of this, ran all the way to the end, and I know the answer, I take the magazine in question that has the article.

But no, I won't cheat and spoil it, wanna see if we have any scholars out there.
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Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 04:30 PM UTC
hello Joseph,
Miss Mary writes and post on a lot of different sites and gets paid pretty well.the only reason i know the answer is i read all of her writing.
cheers,
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Posted: Monday, June 30, 2008 - 01:21 AM UTC
Who the heck is Miss Mary? And what magazine are you refering to?

Well, that's two people who know the answer. Let's see if there are any others.

Jim
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Posted: Monday, June 30, 2008 - 10:42 AM UTC
Aha, well, I don't know who Miss Mary is, but a certain rather long lived magazine that I have taken since I was in junior high school ( said magazine had been around quite a while even back then) had an article on the subject a few months back along with lots of information because they were digging up a couple of period ships from that era. Part of the article went into that particular sailors' history, a rather interesting one especially considering how long ago it was.

Hope I didn't give anything away, 'cause it is an interesting question.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 09:24 AM UTC
Oh I think I bumped into this one, being that we were in beijing last summer (see avatar pic!) and read up on China history...
Admiral Zheng’s Treasure Fleet , his last name was He or Xe, depending on spelling.

The story is also mentioned in the book Guns, Germs and Steel, neat chapter about how/why the Chinese could have been the equivalent of western europe, yadda yadda
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Posted: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 11:57 AM UTC
James,

You got the first part of the question correct! The person in question is definately the eunuch admiral Zheng He. Now who has the answer to part two?

Guns, Germs, & Steel was a pretty good book.

What were you doing in China? I was in Guangzhou in 2004 when we adopted our daughter.

Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 12:14 PM UTC
I missed the second part, just like my students! LOL

size was GIGANTIC! (pun intended, that was the description!). Treasure ships, 400-600 feet depending on who you read, nine masts.

My wife's family is staying in Beijing for US government work and we stayed with them in the summer; also visited Shanghai and other cities. We had a great time last summer, not too much of the olympic crazyness and the US$$ still worth something!
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Posted: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 01:29 PM UTC
Close enough! You're up.

Here's the detailed answer:

Treasure ship is the name of a type of vessel that the Chinese admiral Zheng He sailed in. His fleet included 62 treasure ships, sometimes called junks, with some said to have reached 600 feet (146 meters) long. The fleet was manned by over 27,000 crew members, including navigators, explorers, sailors, doctors, workers, and soldiers.

According to ancient Chinese sources, Zheng He commanded seven expeditions. The 1405 expedition consisted of 27,800 men and a fleet of 62 treasure ships supported by approximately 190 smaller ships. The fleet included:

Treasure ships, used by the commander of the fleet and his deputies (nine-masted, about 126.73 metres (416 ft) long and 51.84 metres (170 ft) wide), according to later writers. Such dimension is more or less the shape of a football field. The treasure ships purportedly can carry as much as 1,500 tons. By way of comparison, a modern ship of about 1,200 tons is 60 meters (200 ft) long , and the ships Christopher Columbus sailed to the New World in 1492 were about 70-100 tons and 17 meter (55 ft) long.

Horse ships, carrying tribute goods and repair material for the fleet (eight-masted, about 103 m (339 ft) long and 42 m (138 ft) wide).
Supply ships, containing staple for the crew (seven-masted, about 78 m (257 ft) long and 35 m (115 ft) wide).
Troop transports, six-masted, about 67 m (220 ft) long and 25 m (83 ft) wide.
Fuchuan warships, five-masted, about 50 m (165 ft) long.
Patrol boats, eight-oared, about 37 m (120 feet) long.
Water tankers, with 1 month supply of fresh water.

Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 03:27 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Close enough! You're up.

Here's the detailed answer:

Treasure ship is the name of a type of vessel that the Chinese admiral Zheng He sailed in. His fleet included 62 treasure ships, sometimes called junks, with some said to have reached 600 feet (146 meters) long. The fleet was manned by over 27,000 crew members, including navigators, explorers, sailors, doctors, workers, and soldiers.

According to ancient Chinese sources, Zheng He commanded seven expeditions. The 1405 expedition consisted of 27,800 men and a fleet of 62 treasure ships supported by approximately 190 smaller ships. The fleet included:

Treasure ships, used by the commander of the fleet and his deputies (nine-masted, about 126.73 metres (416 ft) long and 51.84 metres (170 ft) wide), according to later writers. Such dimension is more or less the shape of a football field. The treasure ships purportedly can carry as much as 1,500 tons. By way of comparison, a modern ship of about 1,200 tons is 60 meters (200 ft) long , and the ships Christopher Columbus sailed to the New World in 1492 were about 70-100 tons and 17 meter (55 ft) long.

Horse ships, carrying tribute goods and repair material for the fleet (eight-masted, about 103 m (339 ft) long and 42 m (138 ft) wide).
Supply ships, containing staple for the crew (seven-masted, about 78 m (257 ft) long and 35 m (115 ft) wide).
Troop transports, six-masted, about 67 m (220 ft) long and 25 m (83 ft) wide.
Fuchuan warships, five-masted, about 50 m (165 ft) long.
Patrol boats, eight-oared, about 37 m (120 feet) long.
Water tankers, with 1 month supply of fresh water.

Jim


hello Jim,
great question,also do not forget that he also(maybe)landed in the America's.there are 2 great books about the Admiral and his voyages and they get into his voyage to America.
cheers,
Bruce
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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 01:24 AM UTC
So, James, got a question for us?

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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 04:23 AM UTC
Im here! Ok, here is an question from one of my fav naval battles.... name the battle!

wait, you need clues

The first ship sunk during the first day of the battle was an auxiliary ship belonging to the eventual winning side....
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Battle of Coral Sea?