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Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 08:25 PM UTC
Detailing 12x ships boats can be a bit too much, and to avoid a rush job, I do a boat at a time. Progress is slow but then again it keeps me amused.

And so, back to those rails, and here it is. What a difference that makes as well from a cage out of the zoo to somethng that's hardly visible which is exactly what it should "look" like.


As I said, the kit was expensive and it would have been a shame to scrap the rails provided on site......however, if you have this kit then the extra fine rail set is the only way and the cost will have to be part of the process unfortunately.

Going back a couple of squares on the board then, I've edited this part and voila here are all the rails fixed in place. The good thing about the extra fine is that they bend and sit very easilly but beware as they are very delicate.



Also I painted the bottom of the aft tripod which needed doing and seeing as there was light grey - 507c - on my brush, I took the opportunity to touch up where needed.


I'm going to have to be extra careful form now on though as one tap on those rails and they will buckle!!!

Peter F
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Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 10:12 PM UTC
Question, Peter!

I have subscribed to your blog so I get an e-mail as soon as any new message is posted here.
How come I can't see your pictures by the first time you post your progress, but only an undefined period later?

Guido
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 12:36 AM UTC

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Question, Peter!

I have subscribed to your blog so I get an e-mail as soon as any new message is posted here.
How come I can't see your pictures by the first time you post your progress, but only an undefined period later?

Guido



Yes, Guido, there is a delay as I usually write in text first, depending on how long I have, and follow up with pictures. It doesn't always work staright away so give it half a dya - usually about this time, when I have a spare moment.

sorry for time lapse.

Cheers,

peter F
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 12:50 AM UTC
I am just relieved it's not me being stupid again!
(I have about NO understanding for computer ... stuff!)
I do write me entries in word first complete with picture hotlinks added so I can at least avoid a few of the worst writing mistakes (still make enough of them!) by using the offered corrections! It has happened far too many times that the darn PC cut out on me and the written got lost.
Cheers,
Guido
PS.: I totally agree with getting concerned about getting this project finished in time!
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 01:54 AM UTC

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I am just relieved it's not me being stupid again!
(I have about NO understanding for computer ... stuff!)
I do write me entries in word first complete with picture hotlinks added so I can at least avoid a few of the worst writing mistakes (still make enough of them!) by using the offered corrections! It has happened far too many times that the darn PC cut out on me and the written got lost.
Cheers,
Guido
PS.: I totally agree with getting concerned about getting this project finished in time!

For me, the railings was a big hickup but now its all about those little boats. After that it will be the various upgrades for the WW2 version, crew, and rigging, and we're halfway through Feb! UHHHH! Finally, I hope to expalin my photoshoot and perhaps I can learn something from that as well.

Cheers, Guido.

Peter F

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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 05:14 AM UTC
There will now be a short intermission - sorry, guys, the rest of my team is at a conference but will be posting pictures shortly - please stay with it.

Peter F
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 08:08 PM UTC
Yesterday's pictures are now in place about 2 or 3 posts above which leads onto today's batch which show the ship's boats cradles now in place.

There was a bit more glue application, and some parts to place but this really needs to go in before any more railings. Also I hope I've fixed these the right way up, its not always clear but the boats in position, next procedure, should hide all the errors - HEE-HEE!





The boats are to be commended though, I haven't seen 1:700 screws/props on any other kit - maybe as seperate pe spares - otherwise well done YS Masterpieces.

Peter F
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Posted: Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 08:31 PM UTC
Quite an extensive weekend of modelling this time - well it has to be with the level of detail on this kit, and so....

Just to wrap up the railings issues, here's one last picture to show the difference, and onto those boats again...


First of all the dry fit recommended in the instructions.




Those chocks are hard to fix and get right so I give myself as many chances as possible. Using pva and a cocktail stick, there's more time to play than with superglue.


Also to give a fixing position, I have marked and cut the underside of the hull - either with a shap blade or by using - be extra very careful - a "hot knife" - a heated blade which cuts through resin easily - don't do this unless you are certain you are doing it safely - ask your parents or wife/girlfriend etc!!!




The work is held in position with a plastic rubber which is a plyable medium - usually availabe at the artshop.

Also, I have highligted some detail with a sharp pencil - sometimes it works, however it is easy to erase if you don'e like it.



Finally, the searchlight platform - this extra deck detail will help create the "clutter" that gives the build its quality in depth.





Peter F
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Posted: Monday, February 16, 2009 - 08:11 PM UTC
And here's a question as I know there are a lot of knowledgable people out there :

What happens to the Averoff's accommodation ladders when they are not deployed? YS Masterpieces have a very fine looking pair of ladders and it would be a shame to just throw them away.

All offers considered.

Cheers,

Peter F
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 08:29 PM UTC
I said this would be a speeding up of the workload, and continuing on :

I have placed the searchlight platfrom - a little problem with the deck vents being in the way , but I've started to replot those, and carried on with the forward searchlights.


Also I've pushed the ships boats down into place, better than they were, you can do that with pva, and then given a coat of 507c paint to all the new work.


There are more small items of detail to include but I will look at some more ship's boats essentially to make sure they fit - eventually.


Onwards.............

Peter F
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 05:46 AM UTC
Looks great, Peter! Barry
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 10:57 AM UTC
Brilliant bit of work Peter! The new railings aren't quite as noticeable and do look much finer and therefore,... better.

Frank
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 11:39 AM UTC
Peter
Sometimes you will see accommodation ladders stowed flat on the deck, especially if near port, so you could do that, I've done the same thing previously. Occasionally you will also see a ship with ladders raised by the davit so they are in position but held horizontal or nearly so, I've seen that only a few times and on ships at anchor or moored so again presumably if near port or expected to use them fairly soon, I doubt a ship at sea would do that due to the damage likely.

Mike
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 10:30 PM UTC
Cheers, guys, and thanks Mike for the heads up. I think I will put them on the deck but not fix them down - subject to confirmation.

And continuing this month's update, I have progressed the ships boats to include the whalers, gig, and cutter. Again using the putty to hold the work in place while I fix parts, and as shown.



The picture with the black sponge is just to show how fine parts can be picked up using needle point tweezers.


Just two more sets of boats to fix then finish the railing, and finally, the rest of the masts. Hurrah! it;s starting to look like a ship!!



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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2009 - 06:47 AM UTC

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Peter
Sometimes you will see accommodation ladders stowed flat on the deck, especially if near port, so you could do that, I've done the same thing previously. Occasionally you will also see a ship with ladders raised by the davit so they are in position but held horizontal or nearly so, I've seen that only a few times and on ships at anchor or moored so again presumably if near port or expected to use them fairly soon, I doubt a ship at sea would do that due to the damage likely.

Mike



And also:
Accommodation ladders could be stowed unmounted (with railings, canvas, etc) to a superstructure "wall" near of their usual deployment place.

Hope this helps, Peter!

And yes, the gallery issues are making me crazy!!
Cheers and keep up the good work


Rui
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 08:07 PM UTC
Thanks for your input, Rui, very helpful - I'll take a look at the details tonight.

Cheers,

Peter F
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 04:23 AM UTC
Peter, this build puts me in mind of the classic Gone With The Wind. Incredible visuals, an amazing storyline, attention to detail, and is such a pleasure to view, the time slips by very quickly. In some ways, what you're doing here is crossing the line from "inspiring" to "terrifying"! Consider this stage the escape from Atlanta part of the movie. Glorious to watch, but very intense. Bravo!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 08:03 PM UTC
Poetic stuff, Rhett, we shall never go hungry again!

Anyway, Dade, I was saying to Mark that I'd better speed up as the deadline is approaching, and Tara needs more railings. I will submit more more images soon but its a bit pedestrian to show one piece of rail after the other - the completed routine would be better, and then its a game of finishing the boats, and the mast structures.

Cheers,

Peter F
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 08:07 PM UTC
And so, all the main deck railings are done, and the upper decks nearly complete. There's a bit of editing around the forward superstructure to allow for a couple of ladders, and then the modern platform over the bridge with the final length of railing can be built.

I will then complete the ships boats, 4 to go, and fix on the accommodation ladder in the stowed poistion - as suggested by my friends.

Once I've completed the mast assembly it should start looking like Averoff, hopefully.

BTW the shot of the tweezers is another way of folding photoetch. These are particularly wide at the base, and are a great help. I have never found a better set for this so it's pot luck finding a similar pair although I'm always on the lookout.





I continue......

Peter F
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 08:06 PM UTC
I did think the bridge needed something extra, and looking back at a previous post, you will see a observation area just above the enclosed bridge. This is what I have modelled for the WW2 version, and is a great little add-on. I have used the brass from one of the pe frets so don't throw these away as they are very useful.




That's it for this month even though I will be progressing over the weekend. Next month should be great as we move towards the rigging, and crew phases but first let's take a look at the mast structures.................

Peter F
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Posted: Friday, February 27, 2009 - 02:41 AM UTC
Hi Peter - a lot of great work in a short month! As I'm starting work on my masts and rigging, I'm very much looking forward to seeing how you get along with yours. Cheers, Barry
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Posted: Friday, February 27, 2009 - 03:07 AM UTC
Cheers, Barry, and I'm looking forward to seeing how I get along with them as well! there's some translation from photos to do, and sketchy plans but as long as it looks right I'll be happy.

Peter F
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Posted: Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 01:08 AM UTC
Peter thanks for the tip on the markings will give it a try brilliant work again as we expect
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Posted: Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 11:00 PM UTC
"Session 9 Closed"
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2009 - 12:46 AM UTC
Keith, I promise you that will work and you will never have to use decals again.

Next, and into the final quarter, it's all fun from now on as the look of the build has more meaning, and completeness moving into the final stages.

Finishing off on tthat accommodation ladder routine, I have fixed the pe provided to the rails, this nice bit of extra detail from YSM that enhances the model.





Also, as I'm working on, there's always a time to bring out the paint for a retouch here and there, and fill in any gaps. This is all blended in with the MIG powders to give the "scaled effect," and take the edge off bright colours,


And so onto the mast construction details. This includes some supports under the searchlight platforms, and I've used spare pe fret to make these thin members, and as shown. Also using pe fret I've cut out a platform for the forward searchlight. All this is stuck together with pva, and then with superglue to the forward mast.









While that's sticking, I cut and glue the davits for the last remaining ships boats - almost there with that now.


As I say, everything is good from now on, and there's going to be plenty of icing on this cake!

Peter F