
#047
England - East Anglia, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:50 PM UTC
Ahoy mates
Iron Duke waiting for a coat of primer when it's less windy outside

I will add the smaller side guns from plastic or brass rod when the paintings done
Andy
Major Caryle,
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Lt Colonel "Johnny" Frost,
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"But you'll let us try sir?"
A Bridge Too Far
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Posted: Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 11:07 PM UTC
Niiiiice!
Don't you just love that look? It says "business" all over and still has a grace that isn't easily matched.
BZ!
Guido
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Colorado, United States
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Posted: Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:56 AM UTC
I've seen the Iron Duke kit on hobby store shelves for years, but never seen one built. She really does look great. She just screams Dreadnought.
Rodger
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Posted: Monday, February 01, 2010 - 10:46 AM UTC
What an awesome looking ship! Can't wait to see it painted!
Scott Espin
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#021
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Posted: Monday, February 01, 2010 - 01:01 PM UTC
Hello Andy,
WOW!!!! Great Job. Thanks for the photo, That model looks like it means business to any one dunb enought to mess with Her.
Thanks for the update,
Cheers,
Bruce
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#027
Louisiana, United States
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Posted: Monday, February 01, 2010 - 01:23 PM UTC
Looks nice Andy. How is that kit?
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Smell the sea and feel the sky
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 08:48 AM UTC
I have to hand it to the British naval architects of the early 20th century, they sure knew how to make beautiful capital ships.
-Karl
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1:96 USS Constitution
1:96 USS Richmond (1862)
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 09:26 AM UTC
"Castles of Steel" is such an excellent book! I've recently finished the chapters on the battle of Coronel and the Falklands. The stories of Vice-Admiral Graf Maximilian von Spee and his armored Cruisers was fascinating! I really want to build an SMS Scharnhorst but it looks like the expensive Combrig kit is the only option.
I've made a little more progress on the SMS Konig. The two 88mm gun assemblies are finished, and I'm just about done with the secondary armament.... will have pics soon.
Scott Espin
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 12:25 PM UTC
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"Castles of Steel" is such an excellent book! I've recently finished the chapters on the battle of Coronel and the Falklands. The stories of Vice-Admiral Graf Maximilian von Spee and his armored Cruisers was fascinating! I really want to build an SMS Scharnhorst but it looks like the expensive Combrig kit is the only option...
Hi Scott!
Yeah, resin ships are pricey, but the asking price for the waterline Scharnhorst in 1:350 was acceptable: she is a fairly large subject with a complex, layered armor system that would have been a pain to scratchbuild, so getting one for well under $200USD was a fair trade. I can't wait for her arrival.
As for the other side, I have already started on a 1:350 Good Hope and Monmouth.
--Karl
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Colorado, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 05:55 PM UTC
Quoted Text
"Castles of Steel" is such an excellent book! I've recently finished the chapters on the battle of Coronel and the Falklands. The stories of Vice-Admiral Graf Maximilian von Spee and his armored Cruisers was fascinating! I really want to build an SMS Scharnhorst but it looks like the expensive Combrig kit is the only option.
I've made a little more progress on the SMS Konig. The two 88mm gun assemblies are finished, and I'm just about done with the secondary armament.... will have pics soon.
If you liked the chapters on the Battle of Coronel and The Falklands I highly recommend "Revenge at Sea" by Barrie Pit. Not only very informative but also a gripping read.
Rodger
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Nevada, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 04:14 AM UTC
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"Castles of Steel" is such an excellent book! I've recently finished the chapters on the battle of Coronel and the Falklands. The stories of Vice-Admiral Graf Maximilian von Spee and his armored Cruisers was fascinating! I really want to build an SMS Scharnhorst but it looks like the expensive Combrig kit is the only option...
Hi Scott!
Yeah, resin ships are pricey, but the asking price for the waterline Scharnhorst in 1:350 was acceptable: she is a fairly large subject with a complex, layered armor system that would have been a pain to scratchbuild, so getting one for well under $200USD was a fair trade. I can't wait for her arrival.
As for the other side, I have already started on a 1:350 Good Hope and Monmouth.
--Karl
Hi Karl, where did you orders yours from? The cheapest I've found is $275, and I really really want one!
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If you liked the chapters on the Battle of Coronel and The Falklands I highly recommend "Revenge at Sea" by Barrie Pit. Not only very informative but also a gripping read.
Thanks for the book recommendation Rodger, I'm going to have to order that book.

Scott Espin
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Posted: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 04:55 AM UTC
Hi Scott!
Re: 1:350 Scharnhorst
Remember, there are two different kits, full hull and waterline from Combrig. The waterline variant is cheaper (naturally), and since I am a dioramist, a waterline version is no problem. So far, Freetime Hobbies and Pacific Front offer the waterline version for $150-170USD. Since Freetime was out of stock, I went with Pacific and after shipping it came to about $180. Still not bad.
Of course I wouldn't mind having other resin kits going for 20-30% above their plastic comtemporaries, but that's not the case. Having a complex design like the Scharnhorst fall into that price range is just too good a deal to pass by.

--Karl
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Posted: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 06:00 AM UTC
Thanks for the info Karl, I'm going to have to get one now!
Scott Espin
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California, United States
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Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 05:06 AM UTC
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Thanks for the info Karl, I'm going to have to get one now!
My Combrig 1:350 Scharnhorst arrived and it was worth every penny! The castings are crisp, detailed, and sturdy. This kit is completely on a par with the best of the injection molded ship kits of late.
Now it's on with the Falklands' diorama!
--Karl
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New Jersey, United States
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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 12:57 AM UTC
Guido - really nice work and I love your water base (as usual!)
Scott - Looking forward to your build.. .quick question, where do you get really REALLY thin metal files? The type that could fit in between the grills of a WW2 AFV for example, or radar structures? What I do now is fold sanding paper of various grits and insert into the cavity, but does not work really well and is a PITA. Glad you liked Castles of Steel, its one of my favs... the type you re-read every few years.
Rodger - Dresden looking good, glad you found that piece!
Andy - Iron Duke coming along nicely, as Guido mentioned, all business! Always liked the lines of that ship.
someone said Falklands GB?
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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 01:52 AM UTC
Thanks, guys!
Getting there slowly. I was bent on getting it done with the original confines of the campaign, but the extension really took wind out.



I am stuck in rigging now, with only one half of the net rigging done.
TBC
Guido
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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 01:58 AM UTC
The box art shows SMS Emden in its pre-war (1908 – 1914) finish with yellow-gray upper structures standard for the East Asiatic Fleet.
All the sprues, two decal sheets (one for flags), and the rigging material:

The box art shows some weathering and lots of detail… how accurate are these details?


Configuration and the beginning of the war and a very successful career as a merchant hunter:

… and when it met its end:

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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 03:40 AM UTC
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Configuration and the beginning of the war and a very successful career as a merchant hunter:

Hi, James!
Sorry, but that is a Bremen-Class light cruiser. Most likely SMS Lübeck.
Look at the bow and the foremast before the bridge: These are dead giveaways.
Guido
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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 06:02 AM UTC
hi Guido!
Good catch! I should have known better...
I know there is a reason I usually skip Wikipedia as a source of information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Emden_(1908)that pic is towards the bottom.
here is a proper Emden:

Do you think the weathering depicted in the box art is accurate enough? I found very few pics of the Emden online; very hard to see any details, most pics are grainy/old.
Again, thanks for the pointer!
cheers
James
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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 06:40 AM UTC
I am by far no expert on Emden's history, but if you want to display her by the time she was sunk I bet you that she looked like a floating bucket of sailors poop.
She was in action for 3 months straight, with no docking time. She was a coal fired ship, which makes for an inherently dirty environment.
The decks and superstructure within reach of the sailor would have been kept ship shape as better possible, but the hull would most likely look really bad.
You know the picture POW arriving at Singapore? That's what can happend to a ship within one transfer trip. I can't have been much different for a ship at war at the time of Emden.
Anyway, you do not want your model to look too realistic in this regard. Mind that over-wheathering will make your modelling look bad. Start slowly and add carefully until satisfied. Take photos a lot and take time to check them.
That's my 0,02cts.
Guido
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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 12:18 PM UTC
Hello Guido,
sorry about the extension, But I had a lot of people that begged for it. There will be no more of them, I hope.
I am still working on the sub chaser. I had a set back, Heating went out for 5 days. nothing like a 4 degree house to get the blood going.
All is fixed so back to the bench tomorrow.
Hope alls well with you and your family,
Cheers,
Bruce
Fair Winds and Following Sea's, Always.
To my Friends, Death is as Light as a Feather, Duty is as Heavy as a Mountain.
I will all have my Hand on your Shoulder. Do not grieve for me I will allways be there for You.
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Posted: Friday, February 12, 2010 - 04:09 AM UTC
Hey, Bruce!
It is not a problme at all, it is just that a little pressure does the trick for me. Now I keep thinking "time 'nough" until it is almost too late!
Cheers,
Guido
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Posted: Friday, February 12, 2010 - 11:46 AM UTC
Hello Guido,
I know what you mean. Most of my builds get done about the last hour of the last day of a campaign.
Great looking water effects.
Cheers,
Bruce
Fair Winds and Following Sea's, Always.
To my Friends, Death is as Light as a Feather, Duty is as Heavy as a Mountain.
I will all have my Hand on your Shoulder. Do not grieve for me I will allways be there for You.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 02:59 AM UTC
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Thanks, guys!
Getting there slowly. I was bent on getting it done with the original confines of the campaign, but the extension really took wind out.
Very sharp looking!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 04:12 AM UTC
Thanks, gentlemen!
I got a bit more done today: finished up the T-net rigging.
Hope to finish railings and hull weathering tomorrow.
I guess I left the slump behind me.
Guido
AKA "Tailor" -VMF'06 - German Gamblers
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