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Posted: Thursday, October 11, 2018 - 11:25 PM UTC
Si,

All most there, those little details really add a lot to the looks.

Mark
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Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 - 08:23 AM UTC
Very nearly Mark.

There are two boats hanging from outboard davits to go, and one accommodation ladder, plus an ensign staff, strangely shown in place, but unless I am missing something, not in the instructions.

I will use a bit of brass rod and some scrap etch parts.

Thanks for looking in and the kind comments.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 - 11:14 AM UTC
some great work, Si!

I'm amazed at the amount of firing arcs blocked by cables. I wonder how they managed that in a combat situation. I know railings could be collapsed for action... But unhooking those long cables seems like it'd make a shambles of everything.

Keep it up!

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Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 - 05:59 AM UTC

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some great work, Si!

I'm amazed at the amount of firing arcs blocked by cables. I wonder how they managed that in a combat situation. I know railings could be collapsed for action... But unhooking those long cables seems like it'd make a shambles of everything.

Keep it up!

Gaz



Hi Gaz,

Gets me a bit too, but I assume they would be moved as a part of the closing up for action routine.

Very different but similar, when I was training as a Cadet in the merchant navy we had an old Ketch (built around 1920 in Calcutta) as a sail training ship, when we were going from sailing to cargo handling, all the mainmast backstays (they were running backstays) had to be shifted both to support the mast and allow the mainsail boom to be used as a derrick. It was real fun, and not as complex as you would think.

Thanks for looking in and your kind comment.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 05:20 AM UTC
Yesterday's progress,

The first platform of the accommodation ladder in place.



The remaining sections folded ready for fitting.



First section fitted, along the with sea boat davits.



Sea boats fitted with oars and rudders from a scrap etched fret.



The rest of the ladder in place and the stbd sea boat fitted.



Quick overview of the ship as she stands.



That accommodation ladder will need some rigging, and possibly another boom. The port sea boats needs to be fitted, and ensing staff manufactured, a few other bits and peices then it will be flag raising time.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 08:45 AM UTC
She looks great, Si. Love all of the little details you're adding. I would have never thought about rigging the sea ladder until now.

Gaz
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 11:23 AM UTC
Si,

Very nice work with ladder and boats.

Mark
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 09:05 PM UTC
Great work on the ladder. It must have been interesting boarding this ship in any sort of seas with that pronounced tumblehome hull.

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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 10:08 PM UTC

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She looks great, Si. Love all of the little details you're adding. I would have never thought about rigging the sea ladder until now.

Gaz




Thanks Gaz,

In my days as a cadet & 3/O in the Merch I rigged a few accommodation ladders, but never one like this. On a normal single run ladder, there is a davit on the upper deck, level with the lower platform, with wires lines running to the inboard and outboard side of the platform. Otherwise all the weight of the ladder, the platform and the person climbing it would be on the connection between the ladder and upper platform.


Unless you have had to deal with the real thing, no reason it should occur to you,


Thanks gain for looking in.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 10:11 PM UTC

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Si,

Very nice work with ladder and boats.

Mark



Thanks Mark,

They were both fun, to sat the least.

Appreciate your kind comment.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 10:16 PM UTC

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Great work on the ladder. It must have been interesting boarding this ship in any sort of seas with that pronounced tumblehome hull.

cheers
Michael



Thanks Michael, It was interesting, I am generally not big on lowered accommodation ladders, unless of course the ship is displayed at anchor on a base, but this was too tempting. I cannot find photos on how it was rigged, so I am going to work on what I think is logical.



wish me luck!

Frankly I agree with you, a normal accommodation ladder was bad enough in a drop of roughers, that one no thanks!!

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 10:32 PM UTC
Such a pleasure to watch your progress Si

Always motivates me to try and get some time at the bench which has been a struggle of late with real life the way it is at the mo...
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 10:36 PM UTC

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Such a pleasure to watch your progress Si

Always motivates me to try and get some time at the bench which has been a struggle of late with real life the way it is at the mo...




Thanks Russ,

That is very kind of you to say, I know what it is like when real life gets in the way.

Hope you get some time at the bench soon Mate.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 - 08:00 PM UTC
Rigging the accommodation ladder.

This I will admit is "creative gizmology" and based on a couple of pics of other tumblehome heavy pre-dreadnoughts.

The boom attached to the upper platform is a kit part, in the location advised by the instructions, except swung out, the other boom is a bit of brass rod. The rigging attachment to the ladder, us a left over aerial spreader from Bismarck.



nearly done.



Fully rigged, from another angle.



Small detail, but lifebuoy's attached.



Ensign staff scratchbuilt.



And painted.



A few final touches, then ensigns will be hoisted.

Cheers

Si





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Posted: Thursday, October 18, 2018 - 11:12 AM UTC
Si,

Nice work with the accommodation ladder, I always have a hard time with the rigging. Spent hours on one for my dreadnought and the cleaning lady knocked it off a week later.

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Posted: Thursday, October 18, 2018 - 07:22 PM UTC

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Si,

Nice work with the accommodation ladder, I always have a hard time with the rigging. Spent hours on one for my dreadnought and the cleaning lady knocked it off a week later.

Mark



Thanks Mark,

It was a fun exercise.

Sorry to hear about your Dreadnought Mate, it is very frustrating, when non - modellers don't get how fragile some things are, nor understand our pain when they are damaged.


Cheers


Si
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Posted: Saturday, October 20, 2018 - 04:32 AM UTC
Si,

I agree, nice work with those accommodation ladders! That tumblehome hull really makes these simple fittings a challenge to accomplish, but you've handled them with aplomb!
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Posted: Saturday, October 20, 2018 - 07:51 AM UTC

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Si,

I agree, nice work with those accommodation ladders! That tumblehome hull really makes these simple fittings a challenge to accomplish, but you've handled them with aplomb!




Thanks Tim, very kind of you to say so.

It was one of those challenges I couldn't refuse. I won't guarantee the accuracy of the rig, but it looks seamanlike to me.


Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, October 21, 2018 - 08:04 PM UTC
Here you go, the final push.

The base and nameplate painted.



Just visible, the decal crest on the bow.



Name and stern crest decals in place.



Ensigns hoisted.



Commissioned.













Another pre-dreadnought will be on the ways before too long, depending on how the builds planned for Telford go.

The only clue I will give is she was the last Pre-dreadnought in the service of a well known Navy.




Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, October 21, 2018 - 09:36 PM UTC
Brilliant, Si!

Thank you for sharing it with us.

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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2018 - 03:22 AM UTC

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Brilliant, Si!

Thank you for sharing it with us.

Gaz



Thanks Gaz,

You are welcome, it is a very nice kit, and so very nearly complete. I have the 1904 version in my stash, different colours, and more superstructure, but that one is not next on the pre-dreadnought list.

Thank you for all your support and kind comments along the way.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2018 - 08:40 AM UTC

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The only clue I will give is she was the last Pre-dreadnought in the service of a well known Navy.

Si



Congratulations on another fine commissioning, Si! Certainly worth cracking a few

Amazing to watch you work, always inspirational to those of us chasing glaciers

Well, I think I might know what you have planned for the slipways next And it will certainly be something I will watch closely as my own is waiting in the wings
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2018 - 09:31 AM UTC

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The only clue I will give is she was the last Pre-dreadnought in the service of a well known Navy.

Si



Congratulations on another fine commissioning, Si! Certainly worth cracking a few

Amazing to watch you work, always inspirational to those of us chasing glaciers

Well, I think I might know what you have planned for the slipways next And it will certainly be something I will watch closely as my own is waiting in the wings




Thank you Russ,

Have been glad to have your support and comments along the way.

I sure did crack a few! This is a very nice kit, and has very few vices.


This will be gracing the ALM stand at Telford.


Cheers

Si


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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2018 - 11:49 AM UTC
Si,

She is a mighty fine looking ship. Great job with the detail and paint work.

Mark

Your pre-dreadnought wouldn't be the BNS Minas Gerais?
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2018 - 08:19 PM UTC

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Si,

She is a mighty fine looking ship. Great job with the detail and paint work.

Mark

Your pre-dreadnought wouldn't be the BNS Minas Gerais?




Thank Mark,


appreciate your kind comment, and your support along the way. As you may gather I am a bit of fan of the pre-dreadnought era, I do enjoy the look of these ships.


As to the next pre-dreadnought project - well you got the country it was built in right, but not the navy it was built for.

I am not giving anything else away

I will not say if the kit is resin or plastic, or the scale.



Cheers

Si