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Pier 51 Lighthouse Painting
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 12:46 AM UTC
I don't think i'd be going over the top if i said ***kin ***l - that is fantastic. I don't think i'd even think about trying something like this. It gets better every time i look.

Andy
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 02:41 AM UTC
Hi Andy,

Glad you're enjoying the build s far.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 03:46 AM UTC
Hi AlanL,
This comment might be a bit late but, have you considered cigarette paper for the tape on the windows? It is very thin and the fibers are fine. Perhaps cut from the glued end and applied with a little tea or coffee to moisten and color.
Looks great
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 04:00 AM UTC
Hi redshirt,

Not late at all, a good idea I have plenty of papaers sitting right in fron o f me lol, lol.

The whole window thing is under review, as it looks like this may only have been carried out in Military establishments and Government buildings. One reason I used tape it comes off easily!!!

Thanks again.

Al
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 04:14 AM UTC
Hi Alan

I really enjoyed the past developments you have made, especially inside the lighthouse - it's full of atmosphere and it looks very busy (I hope that is what you intended!!!).
I really liked the taped windows, it showed some 40's style of preventing glass to shater, and the tip of using smoking paper is great... I guess that you can put some kind of dirty on the glass, since it's very near to salty water (I know what I am talking about!).

At this moment I have no further comments.... unless: KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
;)

Skipper
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 04:53 AM UTC
hey Al, now that's a lot of answers to your thread!
Your work is worth the best -thanks for the biggie scene update pics, good reminder.
I might be wrong but I fear you might have to increase the size of your base at one point -just a feeling like that.
Now your tape, hey are you sure about it? I think the viewers might want and have a look through them, here you block the view to your countless accessories?
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 05:02 AM UTC
Al personally I’ld keep the tape off and try not to dirty the windows too much. My reason for this would simply be to allow easier viewing inside.
But thats just my opinion.

Everythings still coming along great with it.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 06:15 AM UTC
Hi guys,

Skipper,

Thanks for the feedback, busy was what I wanted to show, so, so far so good.

Re the windows, I'm still trying to find a picture with them taped up lol, lol. A compromise would be to tape a few, The cigarette paper might work well I haven't tried it yet.

Just working on my Churchill AVRE whilst I mull over the feedback.

I havent't done much more to the outside since I last posted. Some more work on the exterior wood but noting significient for a while. With two rooms, an observation deck and the light itself to work on it will be a while before I get around to the outside again. Haven't forgotten your orignal post about the windows.

Glad your're enjoying it.

Jba,

Yip, a lot of the inside will be hard to see, but then it comes apart so I thought why not put some effort into it. See above re the windows. I could always add a light lol, lol.

Jacob,

Thanks point taken. There will have to be some weathering on them but it will be a little not a lot just to reflect sea air and general wear. The ledges below them will have a fair quanity of bird droppings lol, lol. I haven't worked out that one yet either .

One possibility would be to have several windows open, should have asked the builder at the time lol, lol. I'm partial to open windows, again some more thought required.

Thanks for the feed back folks. With the majority of the covered space done I'll turn my attention to the generator room and the observation platform next.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 07:56 AM UTC
Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the feedback, it was good to float a few ideas around. One decidion that has been taken is to open up several of the windows on the first level, this should help break up the square angles, draw viewers in and open up some nice figure possibilities, leaning out of the window etc.

Now all I have to do is rebuild them

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 09:40 AM UTC

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Hi Guys,
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Now all I have to do is rebuild them

Cheers

Al



Welcome to the modelers world

As for the open windows that's a good catch - but I would leave the leaning figurine out - it would be worst than the tape on the windows in blocking the view :-) :-)
The lighting effect inside is a darn good idea - you can use those computer leds (now they have them in white and yellow) and it will give an excellent effect - just a thought!

Cheers,
Skipper
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Posted: Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 10:05 AM UTC
Hi Skipper,

Thanks for the thoughts. There are large windows on 3 sides of the building and if you look above one will be directly over the LCP (R) now if I can find a suitable figure there will be one there shouting down to the guys in the boats. That still leaves two sides!!!!!

Done know what LEDs are but I'll ask a few questions and see if something like that might be possible, make the work inside worthwhile.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 12:16 PM UTC
Hey all,

What happened to page three?
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Posted: Friday, June 29, 2007 - 04:03 AM UTC
Post seems fine to me Frank?

Al
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Posted: Friday, June 29, 2007 - 02:00 PM UTC
WOW. That is some amazing work. It took a bit to download but it was well worth the time! I am blown away by all of the little details that are bringing this thing to life and the thought processes(and input from others) that get you to your goals. Too much to comment on individually-sensory overload I guess. Will this harbor scene be going to a museum or decorating your own place when finish?

Cheers,
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Posted: Friday, June 29, 2007 - 05:17 PM UTC
Hi Plasticat.

Glad it was worth the effort and thanks for the comments. I suppose the final resting place will be decided on the qualifty of the build. If I don't cock it up along the way and it turns out how I want it too then I'll offer it to a museum. That said, I'm sure they get many offers of completed builds so whether anyone will want it or not is another matter

Time will tell, thanks for looking, much appreciated

Al
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 08:25 AM UTC

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Done know what LEDs are but I'll ask a few questions and see if something like that might be possible, make the work inside worthwhile.



Hi Alan,

LEDs are Light Emitting Diodes. Those tiny lights seen an loads of electrical equipment etc.
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 09:59 AM UTC
Hi Murdo,

Thanks, tried a few out today. One fell apart and the other went Fssssst

There is however a good location for a small light and a place to store the power. I'll get a few more and see what's what.

Thanks

Al
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 11:21 AM UTC

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Hi jba,

I've tried a bit of tape, this is the result!!!! Reluctant to start to glue anything onto them at this point as a cock up is a definate possibility. This looks a bit broad, don't know if they could be painted on wth any accuracy or I could get the strips narrower!!



Al



Hi Al,

Hope I'm not too late on this. Amazing work! Great stone and wood work! I like the touch of radio room and the tapes on windows. About compromise on tape on window and viewing inside, what about leave one panel of window (the left most small one in your photo) fully with tape and the second from left with one diagnol tape on the window and put a figure trying to put on the other tape diagnolly and leave the rest windows free of viewing? Depends on the figure available, you can either have the figure holding the tape (a little bit away from the window) ready to apply or make the figure close to window with one hand put the tape on the window and the other hand holding the other end of the tape and simulate his hand is laying the tape on window diagnolly. Don't forget to leave a roll of tape on a table or floor if you choose to do this way.

Just my 2 cents.
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 07:57 PM UTC
Hi Steve,

Thanks for the feedback. I need to get some bits to see what can be done about opening up a few of the windows. I think this wil help break up the square look a bit, draw peoples eyes into the building and allow a bit more natural light inside.

Season wise it would be appropriate as it's a summer setting. I'll hold off on the taped windows for the time being. I have tried it with only some taped up and it looks better that way, but tape might not be appropriate as has been pinted out by several folks.

Tea mugs, bottles and a battery for the radio might get added today.

Thanks for the thoughts, I'll see how things develop.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 06:43 AM UTC
Hi Guys,

Well while I ponder how best to do the windows some layout ideas on the Generator Room, most things are just set in.

I started a little work on the Genny Room this evening placing a few bits to see how things might look. Have added a vice to the workbench, some tools and a cut down barrell with scrap bits of wood. On the rear wall I've added a pipe and a piece of trunking to the floor under which run the electrics. I've been thinking of adding a beam above the Genny (this ones not straight) on and over which I'd hang a small piece of chain. In the corner I have some more wood and a couple of cylinders. With the addition of some cans and tools, perhaps some bits of metal/cans hanging on the walls this would be more or less it.











Cheers

Al



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Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 07:06 AM UTC
Hi Alan

Don't forget to add some oil dirty rags
As for what you intend to hang, I would only place the chain. Oil cans, grease cans should be placed on the shelves or on the ground - these are heavy and should be easily accessible

Appart from that, it looks ok - but place the lighting in a way that you don't show that the brick/stone wall is flat

Cheers,
Skipper
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Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 07:37 AM UTC
Hi Skipper,

Thanks for the thoughts. Not to sure about the stone to start with, as this part of the buidling is all wood. I could plaster it the way I did the internal walls of the lighthouse, not sure if that would be appropriate either.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 09:38 AM UTC

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Hi Skipper,

Thanks for the thoughts. Not to sure about the stone to start with, as this part of the buidling is all wood. I could plaster it the way I did the internal walls of the lighthouse, not sure if that would be appropriate either.

Cheers

Al



I would plaster it, at least it would maintain a harmony and you would get rid of that "wallpaper", that it could ruin the overall look of it - details, details... the devil's in the details!
Just my 2 cents,
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Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 09:46 AM UTC
Looking good Alan. I agree with Skipper on the details. But you're great at that anyway.