Hey Guys
Sorry for being MIA for so long. Daily life simply demanded a lot latey, so I haven't had either time nor energy for building really. Some of the things that.s taken up my time:
- Finishing tasks at my old job, before leaving it.
- Starting at a new job, with lots of projects, and lots of small fires to put out from day 1.
- Preparing for the delivery of our second child (hasn't happened yet )
- Building a new grand community for danish modelers
To mention a few
I'm going to build the 1/350 Mikasa for this campaign. I want to build her in her "Victorian vers" becuase I just love the black/white colorscheme .. however I have the Tsushima-kit .. so it needs some rebuilding. However a friend of mine, might be able to get hands on the Yellow Sea version for a trade, so I'm on standby until I have this settled .. I'll propably know in a week.
I also have the LionRoar Mikasa superdetail kit .. and I'll propably also try to get my hands on the Eduard PE set.
I'll return with some photos, once I know which version of the kit will be my startingpoint
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KrokoHunter
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Posted: Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 08:47 PM UTC
grayghost666
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Posted: Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 09:28 PM UTC
hello Niels,
Welcome back,i for one,have missed your input here at MSW.congrats on the new job,it is always fun to be the new kid at the office
.congrats on your new endeavor for the Danish modeling community,i know it will be a hit. 
and hopefully the new baby will arrive on time and say goodbye to your sleeping at night 
.
your build sounds great and i know it will look fantastic, with the Victorian color scheme and the PE set.
cheers,
Bruce
Welcome back,i for one,have missed your input here at MSW.congrats on the new job,it is always fun to be the new kid at the office
.congrats on your new endeavor for the Danish modeling community,i know it will be a hit. and hopefully the new baby will arrive on time and say goodbye to your sleeping at night .your build sounds great and i know it will look fantastic, with the Victorian color scheme and the PE set.
cheers,
Bruce
JMartine
Joined: October 18, 2007
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Posted: Saturday, November 08, 2008 - 10:21 AM UTC
Rui - that is a great "presentation" of the subject to be built... I will "copy" your style for my future builds instead of saying "I have it on my stash". Cheers 
Quintin
Joined: October 05, 2008
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Posted: Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 10:16 AM UTC
Here is my start today on the 1/350 scale French Armoured Cruiser Dupleix. I don't like these black hulls. They hide all the details.
All parts are test fitted. I have done minimal clean up only to remove some casting plugs for test fitting and then spray the first coat of paint on the hull.
Now, this is my first try at posting pics so lets see..
All parts are test fitted. I have done minimal clean up only to remove some casting plugs for test fitting and then spray the first coat of paint on the hull.
Now, this is my first try at posting pics so lets see..
JimMrr
Joined: January 03, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 11:34 AM UTC
I have cut down my hull and it looks much better. My first attempt at making waves with das pronto left me feeling less than satisfied,and I thank Rui for pointing out that it is water-soluble, so getting some finesse is very possible. I have been using my Dremel with the wire brush attachment to sharpen up the base a bit and take down those monster swells to a manageable size. Im liking the new look so far....
I have the wee guns put onto the hull and am anbout to attach the hull,but I have 2 questions regarding the ship to ask: 1- where on the Captians Walk would his door have been?
2-should the ladders (rungs) on parts B31 and B27 be replaced with photo-etch ladders? Im kinda thinking they should...
I have the wee guns put onto the hull and am anbout to attach the hull,but I have 2 questions regarding the ship to ask: 1- where on the Captians Walk would his door have been?
2-should the ladders (rungs) on parts B31 and B27 be replaced with photo-etch ladders? Im kinda thinking they should...
skipper
Joined: February 28, 2002
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Posted: Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 11:34 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Here is my start today on the 1/350 scale French Armoured Cruiser Dupleix. I don't like these black hulls. They hide all the details.
All parts are test fitted. I have done minimal clean up only to remove some casting plugs for test fitting and then spray the first coat of paint on the hull.
Now, this is my first try at posting pics so lets see..
Hi Quintin
You have succeeded in posting the images!
The Dupleix looks very good and also a good change of the "usual suspects" we are used to see
Keep up and keep us posted
Rui
Gunny
Joined: July 13, 2004
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Posted: Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 10:07 PM UTC
A little more progress to report...hull finished, masked, painted, and have begun on the deck work, deck houses, etc...this kit so far is a good one, minimal fit problems, lotsa fun! I continue... 
gator
Vendor
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Posted: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 02:36 AM UTC
Very nice!
Kenny
Kenny
Quintin
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Posted: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 02:08 PM UTC
Update photos of the 1/350 scale French Armoured Cruiser Dupleix. the camera shows every mistake. I have a bunch of detailing to do and clean up. This is truly a "work in progress".
Gunny
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Posted: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 10:07 PM UTC
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Update photos of the 1/350 scale French Armoured Cruiser Dupleix. the camera shows every mistake. I have a bunch of detailing to do and clean up. This is truly a "work in progress".
"Every picture tells a story"....
I too agree, the digi image sure doth maketh the dirt stand out.....
I am constantly amazed at the stuff that my eyes miss on my builds until I see the image on a computer screen...but it's better to fix it now, my friend, than later...
What are your thoughts so far about the casting of your build? I've been following with interest....
~Gunny
CaptSonghouse
Joined: August 08, 2008
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 05:35 AM UTC
Hi Rui!
Rust, salt encrustation, and sun really do a job on black finishes and work to the advantage of the modeler. On the Midway, the dark deck gray we've applied to the flight deck has faded rapidly under the San Diego sun. Those having issues with really dark ship colors should take this into consideration.
The Dupleix is shaping up nicely and I look forward to the next photo set.
--Karl
Rust, salt encrustation, and sun really do a job on black finishes and work to the advantage of the modeler. On the Midway, the dark deck gray we've applied to the flight deck has faded rapidly under the San Diego sun. Those having issues with really dark ship colors should take this into consideration.
The Dupleix is shaping up nicely and I look forward to the next photo set.
--Karl
skipper
Joined: February 28, 2002
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 05:50 AM UTC
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Hi Rui!
Rust, salt encrustation, and sun really do a job on black finishes and work to the advantage of the modeler. On the Midway, the dark deck gray we've applied to the flight deck has faded rapidly under the San Diego sun. Those having issues with really dark ship colors should take this into consideration.
--Karl
Yep, I know!
Even the portuguese navy light grey (with a greenish hue) gets deteriorated with one or two weeks sea!
The darker the color, the more it gets "lighter" under weather
Cheers,
Rui
gator
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 06:13 AM UTC
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Ahhh yes they do indeed. Dark colors absorb the light while light colors reflect it. This is a constant problem in the sign business.
Kenny
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The darker the color, the more it gets "lighter" under weather
Cheers,
Rui
Ahhh yes they do indeed. Dark colors absorb the light while light colors reflect it. This is a constant problem in the sign business.
Kenny
grayghost666
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 01:00 PM UTC
hello all,
to everyone who has posted updates,your builds are looking great.i am way behind on my builds,so expect so updates in the next few days.i hope
cheers,
Bruce
to everyone who has posted updates,your builds are looking great.i am way behind on my builds,so expect so updates in the next few days.i hope
cheers,
Bruce
JimMrr
Joined: January 03, 2007
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 03:20 PM UTC
So in reality, scale colour would mean including up to 30% or so white to the black basecoat, then weathering would lighten the finish yet again....does this concept take into account your observations and make sense to you Rui?
CaptSonghouse
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 06:21 AM UTC
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So in reality, scale colour would mean including up to 30% or so white to the black basecoat, then weathering would lighten the finish yet again....does this concept take into account your observations and make sense to you Rui?
Hi Jim!
If I may interject
, I don't think it's so much a question of scale as one of weathering. Fading in a maritime environment is inevitable, even with modern paints, so pre-dred era vessels would have exhibited lighter shades within days and weeks of the paint application. However, if the ship in question were a 'spit-and-polish' unit, then the crew would have been employed constantly to recoat the ship. This certainly happened in the interwar USN: early damage control efforts in the Pacific War were often hampered by exceessive layers of old paint which had accumulated in the peacetime years and made fighting fires and deploying rescue gear needlessly difficult.What it all comes down to is research, if you can find pics of your subject, that is...
--Karl
skipper
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 06:40 AM UTC
Hi Jim
In tune with Karl, here...
But I would suggest painting the black hull, with a "lighter" black, like NATO black or Anthracite.
Also as Karl suggested, I wouldn't add much rust on those era ships! They were the captains "face", so, no rust was to be allowed. Even during cruises crews had to paint them.
Although I always like to "rust" my models, that's a part I am going to skip in this built and also on the USS Texas for the Staff built
Hope this helps
Rui
In tune with Karl, here...
But I would suggest painting the black hull, with a "lighter" black, like NATO black or Anthracite.
Also as Karl suggested, I wouldn't add much rust on those era ships! They were the captains "face", so, no rust was to be allowed. Even during cruises crews had to paint them.
Although I always like to "rust" my models, that's a part I am going to skip in this built and also on the USS Texas for the Staff built
Hope this helps
Rui
CaptSonghouse
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 06:59 AM UTC
Hey Guys!
Paint shade layering will work well. For me, I use a flat coat and hand-apply pastel chalks. I like the control and precision a hand brush offers.
--Karl
Paint shade layering will work well. For me, I use a flat coat and hand-apply pastel chalks. I like the control and precision a hand brush offers.
--Karl
Karybdis
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 07:35 AM UTC
I've been trying my darnedest not to look at this topic as I won't be starting my build for a few months. But finally I couldn't resist and had to look.
Mark, she's coming along great! Beautiful work in such a quick amount of time! Wow!
Quintin, I'm doing the battleship Charles Martel so "Viva la France!" Great job!
Regarding the discussion on blacks, I personally use Tamiya NATO black on everything. It's the kind of color that has a good scale effect no matter if you're doing a 1/35 tank (use on road wheels) or a 1/700 ship. And it's light enough to show a black wash too. The most recent use are the funnel caps on my Kongo...
But finally I couldn't resist and had to look.Mark, she's coming along great! Beautiful work in such a quick amount of time! Wow!
Quintin, I'm doing the battleship Charles Martel so "Viva la France!" Great job!
Regarding the discussion on blacks, I personally use Tamiya NATO black on everything. It's the kind of color that has a good scale effect no matter if you're doing a 1/35 tank (use on road wheels) or a 1/700 ship. And it's light enough to show a black wash too. The most recent use are the funnel caps on my Kongo...
JimMrr
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 03:02 AM UTC
I am planning to use the "layering"approach, and will certainly lighten the colours to ensure the detail doesnt get lost on the pics. Ruis advice sounds very good. Aspiring toward an "almost black" finish sounds like it would have the most affect....and should look good against those teak decks if they are weathered properly ..
Quintin
Joined: October 05, 2008
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 07:00 AM UTC
Latest shots of the French Armoured Cruiser Dupleix in 1/350 scale by U-Boat Laboratorium
Most major parts are dry fitted and in the progress of being painted, detailed, and weathered.
Wind was blowing pretty hard so getting good shots outside was difficult. Most of the pics inside were just too dark.
Don't know if you can see the flare on the end of the barrels but they are very nice. Even the mast are turned brass tapered to size. Most excellent.
Most major parts are dry fitted and in the progress of being painted, detailed, and weathered.
Wind was blowing pretty hard so getting good shots outside was difficult. Most of the pics inside were just too dark.
Don't know if you can see the flare on the end of the barrels but they are very nice. Even the mast are turned brass tapered to size. Most excellent.
glatton
Joined: June 06, 2006
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 02:49 AM UTC
Dear All,
Let's see if I can work out how to put messages on the board! After a little while lurking on the site and chatting to Peter Ffulgoney and Rui at Telford last weekend, I've decided to jump in and start playing!
I'm going to do the Combrig USS Chicago , same as Jim Adams. That will give me an excuse to take it out of my stash where it's been hiding for a couple of years. Also, I've never actually done a white hull before, so that should be interesting too.
I had previously thought about trying to back date it to the three masted, fully rigged configuration, but there seem to have been some armament changes that I have no info about, so I'll pass on that idea.
No photos as yet, as I'm just sitting at work at the moment, but they'd be exactly the same as on the previous page, so not a lot of point.
Right, let's hit the "yes" key and see if it goes on OK.
Regards,
David.
Let's see if I can work out how to put messages on the board! After a little while lurking on the site and chatting to Peter Ffulgoney and Rui at Telford last weekend, I've decided to jump in and start playing!
I'm going to do the Combrig USS Chicago , same as Jim Adams. That will give me an excuse to take it out of my stash where it's been hiding for a couple of years. Also, I've never actually done a white hull before, so that should be interesting too.
I had previously thought about trying to back date it to the three masted, fully rigged configuration, but there seem to have been some armament changes that I have no info about, so I'll pass on that idea.
No photos as yet, as I'm just sitting at work at the moment, but they'd be exactly the same as on the previous page, so not a lot of point.
Right, let's hit the "yes" key and see if it goes on OK.
Regards,
David.
goldenpony
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 03:06 AM UTC
David,
Welcome to MSW.
Glad you decided to stop by. It will be nice to see another Chicago being built. Are you going to paint her in the white scheme or gray?
Welcome to MSW.
Glad you decided to stop by. It will be nice to see another Chicago being built. Are you going to paint her in the white scheme or gray?
JimMrr
Joined: January 03, 2007
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 03:52 AM UTC
Hi Guys ...my progress so far ...
I am still monkeying around with my basework as you can see...I am sculpting the waves more by using my wire rotatry brush on my dremel tool ...I plan to put a coat of liquitex over top and paint..then shine it up with future floor polish
The red anti-fouling is White Ensign colours...its my first time using them and I really like them.
I am still monkeying around with my basework as you can see...I am sculpting the waves more by using my wire rotatry brush on my dremel tool ...I plan to put a coat of liquitex over top and paint..then shine it up with future floor polish
The red anti-fouling is White Ensign colours...its my first time using them and I really like them.skipper
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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 04:57 AM UTC
Hi David!
Glad you joined in and looking forward to see your masterwork on USS Chicago!
Keep us posted on any progresses
Best regards and give my compliments to Ellen
Rui
Glad you joined in and looking forward to see your masterwork on USS Chicago!
Keep us posted on any progresses
Best regards and give my compliments to Ellen
Rui
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