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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 07:12 AM UTC
They are relying on no one else having the item for sale yet and early adopter (ie suckers) buying it. Give it a few months and the price will drop. It is the way I will be going I think as it has everything you need (says Warren who hasn't seen the thing in the flesh yet).
If you have a look at it there are 10 sheets of PE, including one coloured one, 113 brass parts, wooden deck, anchor chain etc etc. It will be one of the sets I will be considering, if my Big B ever turns up that is..
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 07:19 AM UTC
You are most probably right there Warren, might be an advantage for you having to wait a bit longer in Oz for the Big B to arrive.
$400 dollars is just too steep for me, I'll pass on this one
Julian
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 07:24 AM UTC
I don't blame you one bit Julian, especially when you have gone to the trouble of painting your plastic deck. The cost of the pack is almost covered by the labour savings of the wooden deck!!
It would take many hours to paint the deck and at even $50 an hour it takes just 8 hours to justify the pack.
The brass masts would be nice as well.
They also have a DX Lite pack available for a huge saving.
One other factor to remember is the shear size of all the bits and pieces in 1/200...
How about this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-200-BISMARCK-ACCESSORY-SET-for-Trumpeter-by-MK-1-Design-MS-20003-/170886865375?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item27c9a6a1df
or this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-200-BISMARCK-VALUE-PACK-Trumpeter-MK1-design-MD-20003-/180937668065?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item2a20b9b5e1
Lose the turned brass bits and save $200!!
If you look deeper you can find the DX pack for just $279...
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 09:52 AM UTC
I would like just a set with all the photoetch resin and turned brass in it and no timber decking just my opinion..... but you would probably have to buy a few sets to do that.... Strange about http://www.modellschlachtschiffe.de/default.asp

I wonder if it was because he had to many people looking to purchas his products i know he told me he only shipped in Germany..... Its A shame he had some good stuff
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 10:08 AM UTC

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I would like just a set with all the photoetch resin and turned brass in it and no timber decking just my opinion..... but you would probably have to buy a few sets to do that.... Strange about http://www.modellschlachtschiffe.de/default.asp

I wonder if it was because he had to many people looking to purchas his products i know he told me he only shipped in Germany..... Its A shame he had some good stuff


Your wishes have already been answered Stephen. Mk1 has released those as seperate sets. If you go to the $279 Ebay Store he has them all there.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 10:48 AM UTC
Sorry Warren i must have had a blonde look apoligies mate. I am just curious where abouts in Queensland are you i know of two stores that got the B in and were reasonalby priced at 335 landed i know where there is one currently at 335 food for thought
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 12:03 PM UTC
I am in Brisbane. The is an LHS here with one for $359.. too much by far. Luckymodel have them for US$199 plus postage at the moment.
PM me if you want further contact details.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 02:11 PM UTC
I got mine for Xmas the wife paid the 335 for it wasnt happy when i told her i could have got it cheaper on Lucky as you have said...... will have to start it soon i think but will wait for the photoetch pricing war to stabilise first
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 02:46 PM UTC
Can you take it back? I feel sorry for your Wife as she thought she was doing the right thing and ended up getting burned. I am not sure I would have told her. Maybe you could get a good price for it on Ebay then order one from OS.
I don't think the DX set will come down below $239 for quite a while. I will be ordering one when my Big B gets here.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 02:54 PM UTC
Sorry i need to correct myself she was the one who found it on Lucky not me and she told me about it.........Yes she was a bit annoyed but is over it now
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 03:05 PM UTC
So there is only the four sets out by MK 1 for the Bismarck at present one of those four the DX set being the full super detail set some good choices there really
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 03:12 PM UTC
There is
1. The resin upgrade set
2. The mast set.
3. The DX Lite Set
4. The Full monty DX Set
5. Turret Detail Up set.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 06:57 PM UTC
Modellschlachtschiff is back on-line gents.
Has a couple of new articles too.
Julian
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 07:11 PM UTC
Bit of a problem if they don't ship overseas for many of us. I am saving my money for the MK1 DX Kit. Everything in one package.

Looking forward to seeing your progress guys.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 10:59 PM UTC
Sorry for the somewhat long absence, but I can see that Julian have managed shop perfectly

I haven“t been entirely idle, but have worked on the base/display stand for the ship, its prepared for a glass/acrylic cover - the frame is stained wood and the surface is black lacquer.



Cheers/Jan
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2013 - 01:27 AM UTC
Warren have you got the part numbers at all for the different sets
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2013 - 02:19 AM UTC

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Sorry for the somewhat long absence, but I can see that Julian have managed shop perfectly

I haven“t been entirely idle, but have worked on the base/display stand for the ship, its prepared for a glass/acrylic cover - the frame is stained wood and the surface is black lacquer.



Cheers/Jan


That looks gorgeous Jan, hefty chunk of timber you have bolted underneath the Bismarck
No problem fitting the ship on two points Jan? I have two brass pedestals I want to use on my build.
No time for me to sit back and admire my own work I see
Cheers,
Julian
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2013 - 08:42 AM UTC

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Warren have you got the part numbers at all for the different sets


You're wish is my command Efendi

MD-20002 1/200 BISMARCK DX PACK
MD-20003 1/200 BISMARCK VALUE PACK
MS-20001 1/200 BISMARCK MAST DETAIL-UP SET
MS-20002 1/200 BISMARCK TURRET DETAIL-UP SET
MS-20003 1/200 BISMARCK ACCESSORY SET

And here is a page with lots of piccies of the sets http://www.ka-models.com/index.php?route=product/search&keyword=bismarck&category_id=0
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2013 - 10:31 AM UTC
Thanks Warren mate it confirms the list i have managed to compile as well thanks you again....... Looking at the DX set it seems a waste to not use the decking really isnt it
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2013 - 11:46 AM UTC
It would be. And in 1/200 the sheets will be much thinner relative to the size of the ship. Personally, I think the price is fantastic for the amount of stuff you get in the set. The colour photo-etch is just icing on the cake.
I will be ordering one as soon as my Bismarck gets here.
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2013 - 04:29 PM UTC
Every one needs to take a chill-pill and relax.
Remember, there ARE other P.E. manufacturers!

K.A. is just the first in line.

Artwox claims they have something almost ready.

I am sure the Lion Roar, Fly-Hawk, and Eduard people are looking at this kit and rubbing their chins.

I would be happy with a P.E. set that comes without the wooden decks.

- A careful coat of paint is closer to scale than a layer of veneer.
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2013 - 04:57 PM UTC

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Every one needs to take a chill-pill and relax.
Remember, there ARE other P.E. manufacturers!

K.A. is just the first in line.

Artwox claims they have something almost ready.

I am sure the Lion Roar, Fly-Hawk, and Eduard people are looking at this kit and rubbing their chins.

I would be happy with a P.E. set that comes without the wooden decks.

- A careful coat of paint is closer to scale than a layer of veneer.


Amen Andrew, well said.
Julian
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:26 PM UTC

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Quoted Text

Every one needs to take a chill-pill and relax.
Remember, there ARE other P.E. manufacturers!

K.A. is just the first in line.

Artwox claims they have something almost ready.

I am sure the Lion Roar, Fly-Hawk, and Eduard people are looking at this kit and rubbing their chins.

I would be happy with a P.E. set that comes without the wooden decks.

- A careful coat of paint is closer to scale than a layer of veneer.


Amen Andrew, well said.
Julian


Have you ever tried a self-adhesive wooden deck?
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2013 - 06:27 PM UTC
Pontosmodels allso have a set in the pipeline - and they won't be the last in line....

Cheers/Jan
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:21 PM UTC
Nope, can't say I have Warren. I also haven't tried bungee-jumping, magic mushrooms, piercings or snorting wasabi
If that's your thing go for it, I find the price for after market PE sets and whatnot's is getting rather obscene
Just my 2 cents though
Julian
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