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Building the mighty Bismarck
Gremlin56
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Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012 - 12:46 AM UTC
Cheaper and easier, alas, we seldom choose the easy road Jan
Julian
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Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012 - 02:02 AM UTC
Julian ... pretty foot of page.!!!
Boys really this to taken a level of information and very interesting discussion ..... I am scared...
Jan in these moments we are in the same labor situation jejeje To The evil time good bismack!!!! Jajaj

regards
Gremlin56
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Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012 - 03:46 AM UTC
Hi Daniel,
glad you like my Bismarck banner. Jan is running into the same thing I am running into. There is a lot of detail missing and once you start super detailing you seem to need to be adding more and more.
Cheers,
Julian
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Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012 - 05:06 AM UTC
To all of you who follows this thread, I personally know Jan, and yes, he IS insane!!!
Just kidding, This looks absolutly stunning. I really look forward to see these in the flesh. Are they going to be finnished for Randers open in April?
Best regards
Jacob
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Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012 - 06:42 AM UTC
Hmmm, thanks ... I think...

I'm not sure about Randers.... maybe.
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Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012 - 05:59 PM UTC
Not trying to hijack the thread, but I just ordered one of these from Luckymodel for under AUD$260. That is with surface delivery and 12% off... Postage just $35.. Shows what a ripoff US mail is at over $150!! Now the wait begins..

Yes Daniel, Luckymodel have it listed as available, not in stock, but I couldn't wait!!

BTW, doing a great job Jan and Julian..
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Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012 - 06:47 PM UTC
Good morning Warren,
Hope Lucky gets their finger out and sends it to you asap.
Cheers,
Julian
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Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012 - 08:53 PM UTC
Congrats Warren - no hijacking, and feel free to join in on this tread when you get your Bismarck. Are you going to begin it right away when you get it?

Cheers/Jan
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Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 01:43 AM UTC
Thanks and congratulations Warreni!!! Another more for the fleet ..... jajjajaja yes I am waiting!!!
Its available

Daniel
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Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 08:58 AM UTC
No new photos ?? whyyyy ??
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Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 09:35 AM UTC

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No new photos ?? whyyyy ??



Its Julians turn

Just kidding, been otherwise occupied - but i will have some tomorrow
Gremlin56
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Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 06:51 PM UTC

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No new photos ?? whyyyy ??



Its Julians turn

Just kidding, been otherwise occupied - but i will have some tomorrow



It is and I'll get some snaps up today. I have been doing a lot of reading about the Bismarck and I was rather surprised by the book "The Worlds worst warships" by Anthony Preston, published in 2002, ISBN: 0 85177 754 6. According to Mr. Preston the Bismarck wasn't the unsinkable super-ship that legend would have us believe. The design had some some rather nasty flaws built in. C.S.Forester's "Sink the Bismarck" is also an enjoyable, (albeit rather dated), read.
Cheers,
Julian
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Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 09:24 PM UTC
Sunday 25th November update:
I have been continuing work on the hull inlets.You can see the "dud tank" behind the grating bars. I have also added the propeller shaft fairings and supports and have smoothed the fit with putty. The screws are only test fitted and I notice now on the photo that they luckily are on the correct shafts, (have to pay attention when I glue them). The shape of fairings and screws are reasonably accurate, you can compare them to the photo. I removed the thick pieces of sprue that fits in the main deck but for anyone still to start their build it might be wiser to leave it place because the deck becomes very "floppy" when the sprue is removed :









I have ordered some photo etch add-on from http://www.gpm.pl,
(thank you for the link Daniel )
Slow progress so far, real life has been intruding these past weeks

Cheers,
Julian
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Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 10:48 PM UTC
Nice work Julian, I have the same links from Daniel, but have not had the time to do anything with it yet - looking forward to your "mini-review"

I have begunwork on the secondary armament adding ladders to the two turrets with rangefinders.

Next will be adding blastbags with some 2 component putty.

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Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 11:17 PM UTC
I'd check your references on the subject of blast bags. There are an awful lot of photos of the Bismarck's batteries without blast bags. I added them on my Tirpitz build but it didn't work and look right. I'll be passing on that subject here methinks.....
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Posted: Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 04:19 AM UTC
Great work....thanks for helpful pictures....please keep them coming!
Thanks
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Posted: Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 05:26 AM UTC
Sometimes its just up-hill getting anything done ...



But I managed to persuade the cat to let me sculpt the blastbags on the secondary turrets - my photos shows the blastbags in place when Bismarck was prepared for Reinübung - and later photos from norway suggest that the where in place during repainting.



Some of the barrels on the main turrets looks very dark on photos - where they dark gray ?

Cheers/Jan
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Posted: Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 05:28 AM UTC
Great photos... thanks and I am waiting for more
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Posted: Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 05:39 AM UTC
Hi Wojtek,
It's Christmas here. Join in
Regards,
Julian
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Posted: Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 05:40 AM UTC
Beautiful secondary battery and gorgeous blast bags Jan
Cheers,
Julian
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Posted: Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 07:54 AM UTC
I think that you should take closer look at this Bismarck

http://www.konradus.com/forum/read.php?f=1&i=167694&t=167694&filtr=&page=11

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Posted: Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 08:22 AM UTC
Good boys. Excellent work .... it makes me happy that the link that I they sent was serving them.
Thanks to the friend Julian I am moving the head to Led Zeppelin's pace ... jejejej now Im a hard rocker!!! Im studying the topic blast bags....

This is mysterious!!! Jejeje in the first photo sees that they are placing it, the second cannon does not have it!!!! Taken photo in summer 1940 Is the tower Bruno.



The second photo they meet clear well!! It is of the morning of September 15 before hitting with the tugboat Atlantik in the Elbe



And the mystery ...... this photo is extracted on September 15 in the evening after the shock by the tugboat Atlantik ......... They are not???? Will it be able to be that they them dismantled while the incident or that the towers C and D not to had placed???





After it I could not find an alone photo where one saw with any blast bags .... but on May 21, 41 JEJEJE really illuminate the mysterious blast blags and in the secondary ones also!!!! Jan these in the certain thing



Regards Daniel!!!!

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Posted: Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 07:36 PM UTC
It's great to see you are underway with your Bismarck Jan. Will follow both builds with great interest.....Cheers mark
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Posted: Monday, November 26, 2012 - 01:26 AM UTC
Yes Daniel - my conclusion is the same, there where blastbags on both main and secondary armament during the stay in Norway.

The secondary turrets in place - they miss some handrails as far as I can see :



Work have begun on the heavy FLAKs :



The replacement barrels really lifts the overall look.

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Posted: Monday, November 26, 2012 - 04:06 AM UTC
Beautiful work!